Florida

From: lindenone@aol.com (LindenOne) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Spots in Florida Date: 26 Feb 1996 23:31:07 -0500 Actually, your not far off with a Daytona selection. The best spot is New Smyrna Beach. And its great in that you can drive right up to the most consistant break in florida. Sebastian, of couse, but better and more consistant, NSB. Hands down. Just 15 minutes south of Daytona From: hoss987397@aol.com (Hoss987397) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Stores in Fla Date: 19 Feb 1996 06:26:02 -0500 the best stores in N. FL are red dog and quiet flight in smyrna, the surf station and blue sky in st. augustine, broomer's in ormond (if you want a linden), and aloha and maui nix in daytona. inlet charleys is not so good.

New Jersey

From: George Browne <102425.3412@compuserve.com> Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Beach Access Letter Date: 21 Feb 1996 03:13:55 GMT Second half: So what's the problem. Mr. Mayor? Could it be that Dover Township just doesn't like surfers? Well, that's discrimination and that's against the law. We know that the Surfrider Foundation is willing to fight for our right to use the beach. We know that Surfrider is a 25,000 member, national organization. We know that you'd like to be known for your common sense. So why not sit down with Surfrider and work out an agreement which protects everyone and removes illegal and discriminatory fees. When it comes time for Dover Twp. to get federal money for beach replenishment, will that money come from all of us, including surfers? Of course it will. That's why it is so important to keep the beaches open to everyone and on an equal basis. We all need to protect the beaches and we all have a right to use the beaches. Forget the fee. Let's worry more about how to protect our beaches so that everyone can enjoy them. From: "Robert W. Jones" Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: NJ Beach Access Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:42:30 -0500 On 13 Feb 1996, George Browne wrote: > One of the towns in NJ which has several ocean beaches > has proposed requiring surfers to pay a $10 fee to surf and > require them to pass a swimming test. When did this come about? I am from Lavallette and some times surf in Ortley Beach; I have not heard anything about this and oppose it strongly. It is bad enough that we have to pay a fee to get on our beaches; of course this is something that is easily avoided since there are no badge checkers in the water. How do they plan on enforcing this law? During the day(while life-gaurds(hahahaha) are on (10-6) duty) surfing is restricted to an area but after hours it is not. Do they plan on regulating surfing ALL the time? Please send me more info.

Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: new jersey Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 1 If you've never been to NJ in the summer, let me give you some quick facts: 1) Almost every beach in NJ will charge you to use it - I know, It sucks. 2) Many of the NJ beaches restrict or ban surfing during daytime hours, 9 or 10 am until 5 or 6 pm. These two facts make summer surfing NJ crowded to say the least. There are a few exceptions though, and depending on the conditions you may be able to get a decent wave to yourself. Wildwoods (Exit 4, GSP): Large shelf shelters swells, hard to get any size. I surfed perfect headhigh barrels one march here, then drove to Seaside for well overhead conditions. The beach is always free, but you can't surf during lifeguard hours unless you go to the far south beachs in the crest, walk(or ride a bike on the hard sand) .5 mile down to the jetty and the swell usu. shows a little larger. Atlantic City(Exit 38, GSP): Good Exposure to swells, usu. bigger here than any point south when there's any swell - I'm not sure of current restrictions but I remember surfing in front of the Taj Mahal many a day during the summer in moderate crowds(~20 guys). Long Beach Island(Exit 63, GSP): They require beach badges, but don't check at most towns at the entrance, Ergo you cn usually get in the water and stay in it without getting kicked off. Not all towns allow surfing though. Seaside Park(Exit 82, GSP): Classic spot at Casino Pier, but very crowded in good conditions and the last time I checked, you have to pay. Manasquan (Exit 98, GSP) Classic break at the jetty, always crowded, lot o' localism and costs to get on the beach, shelters the afternoon seabreezes well though. Long Branch (Exit 105, GSP) Seven presidents park and beaches north have good spots, moderate crowd and you have to pay. Your best bet is to surf after 5pm or esp. before 10am, lots o' summer groms sleep late, and you can dawn patrol just about any beach with light crowds and no fee. I hope this helps, and Good Luck - Mike G.

From: markm@ucn.org Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Best surf in New Jersey Date:
Fri, 09 Feb 1996 10:55:27 +0500
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
> I am a 14 years old and I have been surfing for one year. Can > anyone tell me where are the best waves in New Jersey. E-mail your > responses. Thanks! yo Kurtz, I've been surfing in New Jersey for 10 years and the best waves are 101st st. and 12th st. in stone harbor and avalon. Another great spot is states ave in A.C. All these spots break on swells ranging from NE to SE, but STATES probaly breaks the cleanest, while 101st st breaks the biggest. I've ridden 101st at 12ft from the back in hurricane season, and during the Halloween Hell ride a couple of years ago. From: Jon Gold Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: East Coast Dreaming Date: 5 Sep 1995 14:10:30 GMT If you hit it right the surf at Manasquan can be great. There is a rock jetty on the north side of the inlet that can be a great right. If we are lucky, hurricane Luis will skirt the coast and give us some good surf for a few days. Felix gave us 6ft+ surf for almost a week. Like all surf conditions varied tremendously with the wind and the tide. The shop to call is the Inlet Outlet in Manasquan (908)223-5842 or 223-1252 for a surf report. I don't know of any good hotels near the beach off hand, but maybe the shop can tell you. Good luck and pray for surf. JonGold1

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Subject: Re: NJ

: I spent all summer surfing the Margate Pier. Has anyone been down thererecently, I've heard that its been around 3-6?!

I surfed ventnor pier last week at around 4-5', easily, and caught some head high waves a couple weeks before that. check out www.HeritageSurf.com they do a daily morning surf report for margate pier

Massachusetts

From: scoops@cow.net (tracker) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: In Boston, having withdraw! Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 23:23:11 PDT Organization: COWZ Technologies > I can get some kind of waves and rent a board. If anyone out there has > any decent advice, it would be great. I've heard some guys from CA are Hi The closest place to rent a board would be at Hampton, NH or Naragansett, RI. As far as the closest waves, hop on the Blue Line to Winthrop, or the Red Line to Quincy-then a short bus to Hull to Nantasket Beach. You can call NorEaster Surf Shop's Surf line at 383-1918 to see how its breaking. If you ever make it north to Gloucester's Long Beach, I'll see you in the water. Joseph

California

From: pasque@isp.net (Gioni Pasquinelli) Newsgroups: alt.surfing,alt.surfing.bodyboard Subject: Pleasure Point, 10/26/96 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 16:25:53 -0700 We were expecting a nice South swell all week and it never happened but a storm came through Wednesday and Thursday producing a nice Northwest swell today and probably tomorrow also. I had to get there early because of a noon appt. so I set the alarm for 6:30, got up by 6:45 and got to Pleasure Point by 7:45. I didn't take a peek to see what it was like cause I knew it was good... On the drive over I witnessed a beautiful sunrise, the prettiest I have seen in a while and it rivaled those of Death Valley! The moon was full and was just setting at 7 and just above the horizon it looked bigger than anything I have seen before. Then at the summit of highway 17 the sky to the SouthEast glowed a brilliant yellow, slowly fading to the clear light blue straight up and to the North was a gorgious violet red flame. It was beautiful! The wind was blowing and all was clear. I saw all of Monterey Bay grow light, with the stacks of Moss Landing out to Point Pinos in Monterey. An excellent start to the day. I suited up, grabbed my freshly fixed, ding-free board and charged down the cliff walkway to witness 15 foot face sets lumbering through with fantastic spray from the light offshores! My second beautiful sight for the day! It took me longer than the normal to paddle through all the whitewater and the lineup for the first point was way out there. And it is always bizarre how much the breaks look with different swells and the different seasons. I could tell it was once again Fall! Not too many out at 7:45 and it was nice but the waves were steep and the tide was rising and I was not exactly brimming with confidence having not surfed for a couple weeks and this being some very difficult waves. I ended up paddling a lot but not having any luck, as either I got blinded by the spray or someone on a longboard from way out there was already riding it in. The waves were very rolly despite being steep as well. I ended up getting washed inside by a bomber of a set, I had to duck dive two 10 foot walls of whitewater. And so I stayed inside and caught a smaller in between wave and rode it in. Then about 8:30-8:45 the wind picked up considerably to about 30 mph with stronger gusts. I knew this wasn't for me so I headed back to the truck and grabbed my bodyboard and fins. I thought the cliffs and houses above Suicides might provide some barrier to the wind and so walked down. There was a small gathering at the end of Rockview watching the sets pour through Suicides unridden and Sewer's Peaks incredible close-outs and the psychos attempting to ride them. Suicides looked pretty sketchy and dangerous. The tide was set to peak at 10:40 at a 5.9, very high, and the inside section close to the point were viscious looking closeouts. It was tubing like I had never seen it tube before. The paddle out looked long if you launched from the beach, and the shorebreak was right against the rocks so I decided to jump off from the point and paddle hard across the inside zone before a set came in. I timed it well and made it out just in time. A local surfer came up about the same time, I guess he had come from the rocks. And he confirmed it as he checked his board for dings. He said he standing on the rocks waiting for a break in the sets and a wave took him off his feet and he landed board first on a boulder. The wind wasn't so bad over here but the waves held up so much that the drop was incredible. Very steep, very fast, very fun! I had to leave by 10 and I got in about 6 waves in an hour. It was great, nice steep drops with some sections that sucked out and I made every wave. The surfer had some nice drops as well but he had a hard time making the whole wave as the wind would pick his board up and just toss him! Also the wave was very bouncy. From there I also had a great view of Sewer's Peak! It looked way sketchy! The whole middle section would just close out and I saw a lot of guys eat shit hard! I am surprised I didn't see any broken boards. I wish I had brought my camera! Anyway a lot of guys were going left as the right off Sewer's was almost connecting with the First Peak and so either way was a short ride. At 10:15 I unwillingly headed in, wanting more. hI tried to go straight in up the cliff (1st mistake). I took a wave in to about 10 feet from the cliff and then paddled in to get closer. The shorebreak was coming in and I couldn't keep my footing long enough to lumber up the boulders so I took off my flippers (2nd mistake). I still was getting thrown around near the boulders and was attempting to dive through every wave. But I could never get enough time to scramble up. And in the meantime the currents had started taking around the point so I was down where there were no boulders just cliff. And again I tried climbing up but the rock was covered in moss. Then a large set came through and washed me up higher on the cliff and swept the flippers out of my hands. I grabbed them luckily but didn't have enough time to get out (3rd mistake) and the next wave slammed me into the rocks and again I lost my flippers. This time I let them go and made it up the cliff! I sat there for a couple minutes before catching my breath. Lesson learned, I will now go with the current around to Pleasure Point and take the stairs up in high tide, high surf conditions! Well, I hope to get out tomorrow too but I have a lot of school work to do, 2 midterms this week. Plus the wind is still supposed to be strong though a little calmer than today, it had knocked out power to some people. Gioni www.isp.net/~pasque One of my favorites is a place called the 'Marine Room'. It is directly in front of a restaurant of the same name in La Jolla. It is about a mile south of the Scripps pier. Local attitude: average SoCal, ie., tolerant H2O temp: summer 74f to winter 54f Swell: any. Seasons. does not break in the spring. otherwise year round. Wave size: 2-20' . Usually 3-4 ' bigger than any other spot in La Jolla. Combo point/reef break. Any time. Tom

Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Secret Surfspots Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 >D'ja ever see a surf mag that named ANY place between Malibu and Rincon? >I didn't think so. >That's because there's NOT ONE place to surf along there. >So don't go there. >heh heh heh psst. Rincon, La Conchita, Oil Piers, Stanley's, Seacliff Reef, Tropics, Father John's, Mary's, Mando's, The Tank, Solimar, Ventura Overhead, Ventura, Greebeland, California Street, V. Pier, San Buenaventura, Pierpont Jetties, #7 Jetty, South Jetty, Dumps, Santa Clara River Mouth, McGrath, Power Plant, Mandalay, Hollywood Beach, Hollywood By-the-Sea, North jetty, Hollywood Bowl, Washing Machine, Port Hueneme, Radar Towers, Club Patos al Viento, Putty Rock, Fourth Street, Point Mugu, North Point, Outside Laguna Point, Inside Laguna Point, The Inlet, County Line, Arroyo Sequit, Area Zero, Giant Rock, Trancas, Zuma, Drainpipe, Big Dume, Little Dume, Paradise Cove, Latigo Canyon, Malibu. Did I miss any? Sorry, my book is 35 years old. Things may have changed. So, which of those are _your_ secret spot? BTW, lest anyone think I'm spilling the beans on some great surf spots, listen to what the book says about some of these waves: "Small beach surf of mediocre quality." "Lines bend around small point and peak up over reefs into thick rather mushy waves, but soup is powerless and large sections are makable." hmm. Think I'll head _there_ on my next surfari.

From: kieffer@lighthouse.com Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Ocean Beach (S.F.) 9/21-22 - Aaaaaaah! Date: 22 Sep 1995 19:28:16 GMT Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd. Cruised by it yesterday morning, on my way to work. I had to get in early, with no option for surfing (work deadline :-( ). Part of me was hoping it would suck so that I wouldn't feel bad about working. The other part of me was dying to see if it had cleaned up and gotten some size like the weather radio indicated. 'Pull into the parking lot... AAAARGH!!! It's cranking!!! Beautiful overhead peaks are pushing in outside, the inside is jacking up - very shreadable, and the wind is calm with just a hint of ruffle on the surface. I swear up a storm, pounding on my dashboard, I'm sure the surfers in the lot thought I'd lost it. I even have the wetsuit and boards in the back of the van, ready to go. Worse yet, I won't even be able to make an afternoon session, since I expect to work late! I drive into work, in a piss-poor mood, music cranked, and spend the morning and afternoon trying to keep my mind away from those peaks I saw. Finally two o'clock rolls around and we realize we're just not gonna make our deadline so we roll up the carpet. My first thought - "Ocean Beach, 4:00 low tide, I'm there!" I blaze home, pick up the mutt, and head to the beach. I'm in the water by 3:00 and dropping into some sweet head-high surf. 'Not quite as good as the morning, but I'm not fighting the current either so no complaints. I go home one happy camper! I hit it again this morning. Overcast skies, light onshore wind, and a strong current pulling north. The waves are bigger, but kind of mushy outside due to the high tide, though they do jack up on the inside if you can make the section. I decide to warm up the 7'10" gun, in preparation for the winter. Turns out to be a good choice - the paddle out is cake and it gets me into the otherwise sketchy waves. I catch maybe 10 waves, with one outstanding left that I make the inside section on, and a great right that works all the way into the beach. I'm Stoked! (tm Bill Morris) and looking forward to calling my surf bud down in San Diego. Maybe gloat over the awesome surf. It occurs to me I haven't seen anything this nice/big since Costa Rica last april. Well, time to put in the hours so I can hit it again tomorrow. Good waves to ya'! ---

New York

From: Rob DiStefano Subject: Re: Anyone surf Eastern L.I. > > Just want to see if anyone is an East End surfer. Summer is comming and > the Hamptons will heat up soon. > B GOLD And hopefully Atlantic Terrace, Kamikaze, Toilet Bowl (will it ever be as good a "dump" as 10 years ago?), The Ditch, The Ranch, Radar and The Cove. There now, how many others did I miss? (Too many!). Can't wait...I just can't wait. Rob. From: chrisnancy@aol.com (ChrisNancy) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Long Island surf Date: 21 Nov 1995 09:02:55 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) My favorite surf spot on Long Island was Long Beach. There's some weird surf rules during the summer as to where you can and cannot surf (see the town hall for a print-up of their rules). Before June and after Labor Day, the surfers have free reign of the beach, and in the fall I had some great sessions. During this past fall's hurricanes, friends told me of overhead, consistent surf for many weeks!!! I think they were getting better surf than I am out here in Cali. My favorite surf shop was Atlantic Beach Surf Shop - you'll have to call information (516) for Atlantic Beach. There's also a small chain called Sunsations in Long Beach - but their staff is weak and their stuff is overpriced. There's always Mantauk, at the very tip of Long Island. Great surf, rumors of the occasional shark. Long Commute out there. Good luck, Nancy From: Foondoggy Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Long Island surf Date: 14 Nov 1995 21:05:57 GMT Organization: nist sgerzoff@aol.com (SGerzoff) wrote: >I hope to attend suny at stony brook starting this summer. Any help on >where to surf, surf shops, etc. would be appreciated. Thanks. Well if you're not startin 'til summer, you REALLY missed it! SUNY at Stony Brook is almost directly North of Fire Island on the South Shore. You can try Robert Moses State Park on the Western tip but it gets crowded early. Last summer being the exception, the best waves can probably be found farther East, starting in Westhampton Beach (try K st,) on out toward Montauk Point. Ditch Plains is the most popular rock reef break and there are several more "secret spots" farther East (I can't tell ya anything except when they're good, they're really worth the effort to find). When there's a swell and the wind is right the general rule is go East. For just jerkin around head for Long Beach Island. I've seen some amazing days there with barely any swell. The rock jetties can really build some sandbars worth checkin. Surf Shops, you're on your own. I suggest you find one you like on the South Shore and call them regularly for Surf reports, get to know the shop owners and staff. If it's good you're less than an hour from some waves. -Foondoggy !;^] From: chrisnancy@aol.com (ChrisNancy) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Long Island surf Date: 21 Nov 1995 09:02:55 -0500 My favorite surf spot on Long Island was Long Beach. There's some weird surf rules during the summer as to where you can and cannot surf (see the town hall for a print-up of their rules). Before June and after Labor Day, the surfers have free reign of the beach, and in the fall I had some great sessions. During this past fall's hurricanes, friends told me of overhead, consistent surf for many weeks!!! I think they were getting better surf than I am out here in Cali. My favorite surf shop was Atlantic Beach Surf Shop - you'll have to call information (516) for Atlantic Beach. There's also a small chain called Sunsations in Long Beach - but their staff is weak and their stuff is overpriced. There's always Mantauk, at the very tip of Long Island. Great surf, rumors of the occasional shark. Long Commute out there. Good luck, Nancy From: rkorchak@tecnet.me.tufts.edu (Zig28) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: moving to NYC Date: 21 Dec 1994 22:43:07 GMT > I have to move to New York City after living in Malibu for the last 10 > years with many great memories. Am I kidding myself or is there surf close > by? Where? I'm 45 and I've been surfing since I was 6 so can the locals > only shit. I won't get in anybody's way if you don't get in mine. I'm not > a hard ass, I'm just used to 3rd point Malibu. > > Any info appreciated. Plenty of surf spots along the Long Island and New Jersey coast, although wave conditions highly dependent upon weather (storms, etc.). Definitely not like Malibu. Many jetties in Rockaway and Long Beach with different quality surf, but I haven't surfed there in a while, not sure what the local restrictions are or crowd vibes. My favorite surf beach of all time was a spot I went to all the time back in the late '60's -- Cedar Beach, out past Jones Beach near the Fire Island inlet. There used to be all sorts of sandbar breaks along there. We used to go by boat to Garvage Cove and Hemlocks also, which are just west of Cedar. Cedar beach has parking, showers, food, bbq pits, etc. and I think you can camp there in a trailer also. Rockaway within 1/2 hour of NYC, Long Beach maybe 50 min., and Cedar beach maybe 70-80 minutes from NYC. Good luck! Rick. Rick Korchak, aka Zig28

North Carolina

From: kpgwaltn@chemdept.chem.ncsu.edu ( "Q") Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Hatteras Turkey Day Water Temp? Date: 10 Nov 1995 13:56:51 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University, Chemistry This is a table I picked up from rec.windsurfing though I don't know who posted it. Don't be deceived though because it gets to 95 in August and 20 in December. max min month temp (F) temp (F) water (F) wind (mph) precip (in) ----------------------------------------------------------- january 52 38 49 14.9 4.8 february 53 38 46 15.0 4.6 march 58 43 52 14.0 2.9 april 66 51 58-60 15.2 3.1 may 74 60 68 13.0 3.8 june 80 68 72-75 13.2 4.5 july 84 72 76-79 12.8 6.3 august 83 72 76-79 12.8 6.3 september 79 68 75-78 11.4 5.2 october 71 59 68-72 12.4 3.1 november 63 49 58 13.9 3.5 december 55 40 55 13.9 3.5 Mach 10 and Windy Too. K. Gwaltney NCSU Chemistry NCSU Windsurfing Club NCSU WEATHER (includes Hatteras) Raleigh, N.C. http://meawx1.nrrc.ncsu.edu/ Southern Hatteras Island Campgrounds Campground Location (919) Open Rates Sites Hookups Kinnakeet Year Campground Avon 995-5211 Round $12 & up 40 available March Cape Woods 15 - Campground Buxton 995-5850 Dec. 15-$22 115 available 15 Scotch Bonnet Easter Campgrounds Frisco 995-4242 - Dec. 13-$18 50 available 1 Frisco Woods March Campground Frisco 995-5208 1 - $14 & up 200 available Dec. 1 Hatteras March Sands Camping Hatteras 986-2422 1 - 19.50-$28.50 103 available Resort Dec. 1 Cape Point May 26 National Cape (800) - $12 202 available Campground Hatteras 365-CAMP Sept. 5 Frisco May 26 National Frisco 473-2111 - $12 127 available Campground Sept. 5 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Hatteras Turkey Day Water Temp? Date: Wed, 08 Nov 95 14:52:18 GMT Organization: Net Access -- Philadelphia's Original Internet Provider !!Theres an 'outside' chance that I may travel to Hatteras for !!thanksgiving day/weekend waves. !! !!Can anybody clue me in as to the water temp there this time of year? !! !!I've been there before, but never this time of year. !! Did it last Turkey Day; and will be doing it again this. Last year I would approximate the water temperature to have been 55F - 60F. Try accessing the buoy data for accurate temps. http://penguin.marine.fit.edu/ A great URL for wave info, which I believe will lead you to the info you want.

New England

From: lee.fontaine@yale.edu (Lee Fontaine) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Bertha Date: 15 Jul 1996 22:06:43 GMT Organization: Yale University > >After the bump before July 4th, California has been small and a bit chilly, > >Who has the stories on the swell from Bertha??? > Real power or close interval chop or what??? I jumped in the water on Friday morning at Matunuck in RI. Bertha was sending solid shoulder to head high with occasional overhead sets. Nice clean lines! My brother surfed the Lighthouse at Point Judith that same morning. He said it was pretty consistenly overhead. Also pretty clean and consistent. Lots of fun. Saturday Bertha made landfall. If high wind and heavy rain wern't enough of a deterrent then it must have been wave conditions that kept most of us beach bound. Sunday was another story. Although conditions were not as good as Friday there was still plenty of fun to be had. Again, I went out at Matunuck early in the morning and had the place to myself. A light west wind put a little cross chop on somewhat peaky waves. The tide was also approaching high on the reef, but my daughter an I had the place all to ourselves for about three hours. When we finished, we took a ride to Point Judith. Again, waves were a little peaky and the outside break had a bit of chop to it. Just inside was much cleaner and the 40 - 50 (or so) guys (and a few women too) seemed to getting some great rides. I'd say lot's of stoke was had by all! //Lee From: phelana@ma.ultranet.com (A. Phelan) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Surfing in Mass? Date: 14 Apr 1997 01:06:49 GMT > >No problem, youngster; plenty of places: RI has warm (non-wetsuit) breaks >during the summer: the beaches in Newport and the beaches between >Narragansett and Pt. Judith (my favorite); with a wetsuit, Scituate's >Egypt Beach is your closest bet. > >Best thing about the RI places is that you might be able to convince Dad >to take the whole family for a beach day - and surf for you! Also, check >out the family camping at Fisherman's, a state-run quite camp ground >equadistant between Narragansett and Pt. Judith > >If your Dad wants to talk to me about directions, etc., my member profile >is on-line. > >Fred Don't forget Welfleet!! From: scoops@cow.net (ice cream) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Massachusetts Surfing? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 22:59:16 EST > Is there anything like Massachusetts surfing? > > Is there anyone that could give information regarding > any break point worth going from Western Mass? > > Please be specific. > The closest place is probably the water tower in Winthrop (next to Logan Airport). Also Long Beach and Good Harbor beach in Gloucester, Egypt beach in Scituate, Nantasket beach in Hull, Coast Guard beach on the cape is OK too. From: nemelans@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Neal Melanson) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Hampton Surf Report Date: 11 Dec 1995 21:41:20 GMT Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA Summary: Keywords: Dateline: Sunday December 12, 1995, Hampton Beach NH Wind: 20-30 knts NNW Water Temp: 46F Air Temp: 26F Seas: Head High ENE After an intense coastal low pressure that left 12" of new powder in the White Mtns, the surf at Hampton was head high for some of the sweetest waves all season. Rye Rocks was even better! Except for when some Dad dropped off a school of groms for us to babysit. (Me and my longboard kept getting tangled up in their leashes.) Anyway high fives and hot chocolate all around

Canada

From: "K. J. Nichols" Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: East Coast Canadian spots Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:13:03 -0700 Christian Dudemaine wrote: > > I wonder if any of you knows some surf spots on the canadian > east coast? > Last automn I went to Mauritius and Reunion to surf and since I came > back here, > the only thing I want is surfing... > But I live in Montreal and I don't have enough money to go to Indo or > Oz or Maldives...so I'd like to know if there's spots nearby...besides > the great lakes... > > Guillaume I've surfed in this, my home province of Nova Scotia for 13 years now. There are numerous breaks all around Nova Scotia, many, many of them unridden, most have never seen a surfer. The popularity of Nova Scotia is growing. I just got back from North Carolina, and a few of the fellas and gals had given some thought to the unridden north. The wild aspect of Nova Scotia is just that...wild. Allow me to explain, you stop your car along the road walk through the wood for 10-15 min and bang there's a head high clean point break. Honestly, I shit you not. Ask a local fisherman they'll be more than happy to point out a decent break that he/she has fished by for years and never once seen a surfer. Being in N.C., I was starting to get pissed at 30-40 guys surfing the same spot. Here in Nova Scotia, if I see someone else at my spot it's a big deal, usally it's only my buddies and family, in recent years there have been one or two new guys out. Thats just great,besides it's more fun to have someone watch as you get one of those belly scream type of rides:) The water can be quite cold, I use a 4/3 with booties most of the time, but that's really not necesary. Aug/Sept average temps are between 62-72 F and that's not bad at all!!the coldest I've ever been in is the 30's, and thats not the winter time. Nova Scotia's most popular spot is Lawerencetown Beach outside of Halifax(the capital) it has a decent beach break if the winds right but the main draw is the point break rights, which in hurrican season can be double head high no problem. My personal breaks are down the south shore, at Cherry hill beach( a strong beach break, lots of sand bars, really decent lefts and rights. Hits the sand bar hard!! :) )Broad Cove beach which depending on the swell breaks off different points left or right. These spots are right off the road litterally. If you wanted to look you could find your own. I know all this sound too good to be true, come find out for yourself, but don't make it too popular. If you do come don't forget to bring some extra gear, we Canadians are hurtin for boards!! SURF OR DIE Cluny From: rongen@fox.nstn.ca (rongen) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Anybody here surf NOVA SCOTIA? Date: 21 Mar 1996 05:36:37 GMT In article , jjames@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil says... > >I am going to spend some time in Nova Scotia and need some info on best wave >season, best time of year for weather and if you get those black flies like >Maine does in the summer. > > >Thanks, >JEff > Jeff we get black flies, mosquitos, deer flies, horse flies and a host of noseeums that'll eat you alive! The more determined of them will follow you right out to the lineup. Seriously, you want to surf here in the early spring or the fall. It pumps right around september (when school starts) but there can be week long lulls, like anywhere (Hurricaine season is REALLY good). Bring a good wet suit of course and some deep woods off. Go to lawrencetown for a point break and Martinique for beach. The locals are really friendly here because our lineups are so empty. Tell em you are from away and watch out for flying bull shit when we start telling you how you should have been here YESTERDAY morning. Anyway, if you're on the Eastern shore you can camp out just about anywhere near a beach and the mounties won't hassle you. I do it all the time so I don't have to drive into Halifax and back. There's lots of spots but go to a main beach because you'll need directions and a car with a good suspension... Hope I see you around... We have a beautiful province here and I guarantee your first visit will not be your last!

Great Lakes

Subject:was (Hudson Bay)
Date: 1999/05/27
Author: Craig   Hi! Thanks for all the good advice! I am very much looking forward to the July trip. Actually, I have quite a bit of ocean experience, having lived in South Africa, Europe, and I visit Mexico yearly. I moved back to the lakes by choice, despite what I wrote. The west coast is only a few hours away by jet.

I like living in cities with downtowns, which is why I came back to Chicago. Most of all, I like having public transportation. I am not into diving 60 miles each way to work, like I did in LA.

The scene on the Lakes is arguably the best anywhere, because every break is like "Cheers", everyone knows your name and pretty much welcomes you! No crowds. This is better than what I have experienced almost anywhere else. We travel when we can't surf here. When we can, we do it!

I head off to Grand Haven tomorrow where I am installing a surf cam for us great lakes surfers on the pier! If you were here in '76 do you remember Aquadoc? craig

http://www.kacm.com/ESA-GL.html Great Lakes District, ESA

p.s. the answer to the flatness question has to be Florida, because Florida is not SUPPOSED to be flat, Michigan is! People don't ask you if you can see across the ocean... people from the coasts have asked me if I can see across the lake all the time! Btw72 wrote in message <19990527153229.10784.00004707@ng-fv1.aol.com>... >I made the Great Lakes to Florida move in 1976. The ocean is a much bigger >realm -- more space for ground swells to grow. Same for the egos of wannabes >and surf stars. The stoke of surfing with friends you just met on the Lakes >can exist anywhere, too bad it doesn't exist more places, more often. I may >end up moving back to the Lakes area. A koan to ponder: > >What is flatter -- Three weeks of flatness in Michigan or three weeks of >flatness in Florida?

From: kemz0808@interserv.com Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Chicago Surfscene! Date: 20 Feb 1996 02:28:01 GMT > Jean writes: > The best time of year to find waves on the great lakes is winter. > When wind conditions are right, certain storms can brew shoulder to head > high swell. That's not to opften, though. I personally don't know because > I've never been there at the right time, but, I've seen photos and talked > to locals. Twice while driving cross-country I've stopped at Lake Mich, > but have been denied both times. If you're lucky enough to catch that > once a year swell I hear Sheboygan, WI is the place to be. There's a > coast guard staion there that will look out the window and report for you. > HO > >>>> The Sheyboygan spot is pretty far north from Chicago. Lots of rocky shores up that way. Don't bother with Chicago...jettys have been designed to oppose wave motion from the south. Try Evanston to the north (Greenwood). And, if you're back east that way, try the Michiana border. Generally, the waves on the east side of Lake Mich are better formed than those on the west side. Be careful of hypothermia. Booties, hoods, etc. are a must. Fresh water waves are sharp, but lighter than salt water waves, so just be aware of differences. We have fun here when we can! Craig From: Steve Lelchuk Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: surfing great lakes??? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:25:13 -0800 Organization: U of Minnesota, Center for Philosophy of Science Nancy the Sojourner wrote: > > i'm landlocked in ohio for the time being and i have heard rumors that > it is possible to surf the great lakes when a good enough wind swell > kicks in. is this possible/feasible? i even called the coast guard in Nancy, it's possible and feasible, though it's hard to catch ideal conditions unless you're livin' on the beach! There's been an active surfing community on Lake Michigan since the 60s. On the west side it's centered around Sheboygan; on the east side it's Grand Haven. But people do surf all around the lake. I've been to Sheboygan (every Labor Day they have a party and, with luck, a surf contest), met the people (super folks!), seen the spot (a beautiful little bay), seen great pics of times past...and seen the place flat as a lake for the two days I was there! So it goes! There's also a "crew" on Lake Ontario. Check out the web page at: http://www.cm.deakin.edu.au/~ludwig/lakes.htm. Some friends and I have been surfing on Lake Superior, with mixed results. We're mostly beginners, so that kinda determines the results right there :-) But also it's been tricky finding breaks, catching the swell before it dies (3 hrs drive from Minneapolis to the Lake), and the water's frickin' COLD! Still, I'm totally stoked to be able to do it at all, and I've had a ball the last two seasons. Good luck, have fun! If you want names & numbers of the Sheboygan folks, drop me a note. http://www.cm.deakin.edu.au/~ludwig/lakes.htm From: 3jpn2@qlink.queensu.ca (Newgard John P) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Damn snow in my eyes! Date: 19 Nov 1995 17:16:53 GMT Organization: Queen's University, Kingston G'day, eh: Last time I was out at Sandbanks, Lake Ontario, the waves were nice 5-6 footers, steep take-offs, fast rides, and the damn snow was nearly blinding me! Although most (if not all) of you cannot relate to this, I'm hoping there's another tortured soul out there that can relate and can offer some advice (other than those extremely whitty lines about staying in bed or moving to Hawaii). I'm thinking of some sort of goggle. Thanks, John From: Craig Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Surfing Lake Erie Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:11:11 -0500 > > A friend of mine may be moving to Pa. and asked me to enquire about > surfing Lake Erie. Please let me know as much as possible. Thanks. Hi, Please contact the Eastern Surfing Association, Great Lakes Division. Call Jim Hoop at 773.582.3057 or Lester Priday at 847.356.6702 (Chicago). They can give you information about scheduled Great Lakes meets and spots. Also try Rick Boss at the Great Lakes Surfing Association, at 616.395.5992 (Holland, MI). There are many spots in the Great Lakes (Lake Erie, too) and they tend to be good primarily in Spring and Fall. For specifics on locations in Lake Erie, try The Surf Report, #14. Also, you might want to let your friend know that a dry suit with a hood might be a good investment for spring surfing. The guys listed above can give you more info. See Lud's Great Lakes surfing page for pics and links to Lake Erie wave data: http://www.cm.deakin.edu.au/~ludwig/lakes.htm or a Lake Michigan surfing page with nice Grand Haven surfing pics at: http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~schmidtg/mi.htm Craig

: > Anyone else out there surf the Great Lakes? : > : > The other day I went to Lake Erie, near Monroe, Mich. great surf. 3 to 6 : > foot swells. I took my boogie board, others had long boards; we had a : > blast. : > : > I've been surfing these lakes for about 10 years now, have to say this is : > a great year so far. Been out since may about a dozen times. Can anyone : > else relate to this addictive sport in southeast Mich? : > : > Thanks- JF : > Right On : I've been surfing the Great Lakes for about 30 years!! : Actually Lake Erie...on the Canadian side near a place called FORT ERIE : (not far from Buffalo) : Sherkston Beach, Elco Beach, Point Abino, ERIE BEACH!! near the Old Dance : Hall! : Lots of waves 4 to 6 ft...it doesn't happen that often but when it does : !!! : Later : White Jelly Fungus

From: BlueSpark@gnn.com (David Lisuk) Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: surfing lake michigan? Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 23:03:15 I contacted my brother in Traverse City, MI... he's a respected Lake Michigan waterman who told me that fall and winter swells in your area are often overhead and surfable (deep water swells will often exceed 15 to 20'). Contact your local branch/chapter of the Great Lakes Surfing Association for more info... also, you will need at least 4mm of rubber in the winter but you can trunk it in August. A spring suit should cover the rest of the summer. Check out the few local surf shops in Chicago. Most specialize in windsurfing, but you can pick up boards and info. there too. Show those fresh water boys what true stoke is!!! Let me know how it goes... ALOHA.

Washington/Oregon

From: "Jason Bruce" Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Northcoast Surfing Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:31:53 -0000 Organization: Blarg! Online Services - 206/441-9109 -- Jason Bruce Moving from the California coast to Washington State, I thought that I would never be able to pursue surfing/bodyboarding, a sport I fell in love with, again. Recently, I discovered that I can pursue my california hobby once again. I found out that several spots on the Washington coast are just as good if not even better than the california coast for surfing/bodyboarding. To give some examples, if the swell is coming in at 260 degrees, the waves all along the Strait of Juan De Fuca have an average height of 3 to 6 feet. For Westport, the heights are anywhere from 4 to 12 feet. There are two issues I can see that make the northcoast less popular for surfing/bodyboarding: water temperature and dangers posed by the logs that end up in the ocean. However, don't get discouraged yet. There are ways to work around these two problems. The cold water temperature problem is easily remedied if a full wetsuit (for warmth, the mimimum rating for the wetsuit's thickness should be a 4/3) and booties are worn. Even though the surf along the washington coast is powerful enough to throw tree logs at a person, logs aren't ever present in some areas. Four of the areas I know where getting crushed by logs isn't a concern are Westport, Long Beach, Elwha Indian Reservation along the Strait of Juan De Fuca, and Cape Flattery. Try, surfing/bodyboarding at one of these areas I suggested. I promise, you'll have a blast.